Heather (00:02.081)
Welcome to Disc Course, a podcast about music as a medium for conversation.

This is our holiday special, our first one. We have double the guests for you so you can over consume something that you won’t regret this Thanksgiving. Our guests are Rod and Karen of The Black Guy Who Tips, a daily podcast with over 3000 episodes and that’s not even counting their premium shows, which blows my mind. That is very prolific. You’ve been mentioned on HuffPost, Daily Beast, New York Times, BET.com and many more. Tell us a little bit about your show and your process.

Roderick Morrow (00:26.605)
You

Roderick Morrow (00:36.593)
It’s a comedy podcast that Karen and I started in our spare bedroom over 13, 14 years ago now. 2008, 2009, some around there. Yeah, and we’re just a husband and wife duo. talk pop culture, politics, comedy, a bunch of stuff, sports, just whatever is current. And we do it about four to five times a week. yeah, that’s basically the gist of the show.

Heather (01:06.024)
Nice. And you two have been together since you were 16, which is a long time. So I take it you’re very experienced at family gatherings and holidays and kind of bringing your own traditions together. I’m very excited to learn more about that through this music. So let’s dig in. The music starts in three, two, one.

Roderick Morrow (01:17.518)
Hahaha

Heather (01:32.167)
This is This Christmas by Donny Hathaway. It was released as a single on Atco Records in 1970. Roderick, tell us about this one.

Roderick Morrow (01:42.241)
man, this Christmas is just, I feel like it’s a black rite of passage. It’s definitely like the song that I associate most with the holiday season. And holiday season for Christmas basically starts at Thanksgiving in my family. So like, even though you ain’t getting no gifts, this is when all that music starts cranking up. And so.

Donny Hathaway’s voice is just something, it makes me feel warm and it makes me think of Christmas trees and stuff like that. And it feels like an unofficial black anthem. It’s kind of like how Stevie Wonder’s Happy Birthday is the black happy birthday one. Like that’s the one we sing. We were in a store the other day buying candles and marshals.

and this came on and all the black people in line, I could see everybody humming and dancing along to it a little bit. And so I don’t know if it’s different than White House Hoes. I can’t lie. Like it could be the same, but I know in that line, it was like we all was in the same family for about 45 seconds to a minute there. So that’s that’s what the song means for me.

Heather (02:51.965)
Nice. I love that. do, as a white person, I would say I am very familiar with this song, but I don’t think it has quite the same place in the playlist in my family’s.

Roderick Morrow (03:05.605)
I’m just glad that y’all own it. You know, to be honest, like everybody should be sharing in this joy. This is good.

Heather (03:08.777)
Yeah, it is. It’s a fantastic song. You know, the really white Christmas songs get really old. So yeah, I really appreciate it. And my grandmother played a lot of Kenny G around Christmas too, which I just, I’m not a fan of.

Rajah (03:09.633)
Hahaha

Roderick Morrow (03:18.021)
Yes. Chestnuts roasting on an open fire. It’s like, we got it. We get it, bro.

Roderick Morrow (03:27.749)
Come on through Kenny G.

Rajah (03:30.224)
Yeah.

Roderick Morrow (03:31.569)
I used to love me some Kenny. I don’t know why I just love me some Kenny G when I was a kid. I was like that white man is blowing. It’s cuz of the hair. Yes

Heather (03:36.241)
Yeah?

Rajah (03:41.844)
The hair.

Heather (03:43.57)
Alright.

Rajah (03:47.515)
I love how the vocals are, just the soulful song. And it always makes you want to sing too. I don’t know how you can’t sing it. It sounds good.

Roderick Morrow (04:00.421)
That’s facts.

Rajah (04:04.495)
like those notes. You might not be able to hit them, but it makes you want to try.

Roderick Morrow (04:07.601)
I mean, he has such a beautiful voice, one of a kind.

Heather (04:13.256)
Mm-hmm.

Rajah (04:14.609)
Mm-hmm.

Karla (04:18.313)
Yeah, and I love it again, like how soulful it is because it makes you want to like, you know, damn to it, even if it’s not Christmas.

Roderick Morrow (04:26.257)
Mm-hmm.

Heather (04:27.078)
That’s true.

Roderick Morrow (04:37.487)
Also, there’s ad-libs, they’re telling you to dance at the end. It’s like Christmas, but it’s also just like, if you played this at any concert, it’s like, yeah, this is my jam.

Rajah (04:43.283)
Thank

Rajah (05:03.1)
don’t know how to shake a hand, but it still makes sense. I don’t know how to do this, but…

Roderick Morrow (05:09.395)
Shake a hand, shake a hand, y’all.

Heather (05:09.469)
Huh.

Rajah (05:12.252)
Ha ha ha.

Heather (05:12.898)
you

Heather (05:17.098)
All right, this next song is… actually my notes are wrong. One second. This is Golden by Jill Scott. The song is right, my notes are not. All right. Go ahead, Karen, tell us about this song.

Roderick Morrow (05:25.509)
I must have said that is right.

Roderick Morrow (05:30.542)
Okay.

Roderick Morrow (05:36.507)
For me, I know when I was looking, was kind of thinking about the theme and how to pick it. And for me, I was thinking, what are songs that lift my spirits, you know, type of thing. And so for me, I was like, I really like this song because…

It’s one of those things where you go, I’m gonna live my best life. Like this had a song really make me feel, I’m gonna live my life like it’s golden. know, regardless of what’s happening, regardless of what’s going on, I have to stay focused and realize the fact that I’m still here and breathing and things like that is worth it for me. And so this is one of the songs that kind of stuck out for me.

And so like I said, Angel Scott is one of the people that I would love to see live. you know, I’ve never seen her live. I’ve seen Erica by Do I’ve seen several other people, but I would love to see her do a live show.

Rajah (06:34.554)
I can see myself cleaning greens, starting to prep the food for this. But yeah.

Roderick Morrow (06:38.065)
Yes, yes, could just have bopping in the kitchen and moving around and you know, particularly had larger families, children running around you and things like that. Everybody kind of doing their own thing. And this is one of those songs where you could play and even old people that don’t know who Jill Scott is, they could still vibe out to it. If that makes sense, you won’t hear that. What is this hippity hop y’all listening to? They’ll go playing it in the background.

Rajah (06:44.378)
Mm-hmm.

Rajah (06:48.6)
Exactly.

Rajah (06:59.674)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Rajah (07:03.334)
Ho ho!

Roderick Morrow (07:05.935)
You ain’t got to worry about that when you play this. You know, cause she still has that like that soulful old school voice, you know, where they could be like, I like that girl and say, who is that girl? Who that singing? That’s you get more of those questions. So for me, this is a, a, a song that kind of uplifts, if that makes sense. Like it just a good vibe, a good feel chilling. You can have a great cookout to this, play some spades and pitypats and bid whiz, fry some fish.

Rajah (07:13.616)
Mm-hmm.

Roderick Morrow (07:35.877)
Fry some croaker.

Rajah (07:38.97)
Hmm hmm, yes.

Roderick Morrow (07:39.129)
Yes, with potato salad. That’s really make me, when I hear this song, that’s what it makes me think about type of thing. That family, that vibe, that closeness feel. Yeah, Jill Sky also, I feel like the song, Way, could have also gone into Thanksgiving thing, because she was singing about that food in The Way. And I always get my life when she like grits.

Rajah (07:54.054)
Mm-hmm.

Rajah (08:03.098)
That’s true.

Roderick Morrow (08:07.44)
That was on the list too, and I was like, I’ma go this route. Yeah, like now that we’re here and we’re actually doing this show, I’m thinking of other songs where I was like, you know what? These songs make me think about the food I would eat on Thanksgiving. I’m like, I should have pulled those songs too.

Rajah (08:11.141)
Yes.

Rajah (08:20.122)
Yeah.

Rajah (08:24.238)
Now it was definitely hard to just three and I was like what are other people that I picked? I didn’t want to take other people’s picks so I kind of tried to go a different way but I think it still fits.

Roderick Morrow (08:27.939)
Mm-hmm.

Roderick Morrow (08:38.703)
Yeah, I really do. I like Jill Scott cause you know, and I started really like listening to the lyrics and how they made me feel and things like that. I was like, okay, yeah. Cause when you actually sit and actually listen to what she’s saying, she was like, Hey dog, like you have to live your life. have to, they ain’t not taking your freedom. Like you have to be steadfast in these things. It’s very uplifting and it does make me feel thankful and thankfulness have been alive.

Rajah (08:47.312)
Mm-hmm.

Heather (09:04.384)
Mm-hmm.

Roderick Morrow (09:08.3)
and like that.

Heather (09:11.469)
Yep. So that was released on Beautifully Human, Words and Sounds Volume 2 on Hidden Beach Records in 2004. This song is Do I Do by Stevie Wonder. It was released on Stevie Wonder’s original Muse Aquarium on Tamla Records in 1982. Rajah, tell us about this song.

Rajah (09:29.638)
This is also a song that’s gonna be on the playlist when I’m gathering with family. It makes me think about loving someone out loud, and I feel like that’s who you should love out loud in your family. And just the feeling of love with the elements of like funk, the soul, the jazz, it really feels like my family. And that’s what I think of when I hear this song.

I can’t really like you have the different generations coming together from the kids to the older people to cousins who aren’t Cousins but their cousin and just everybody being together and loving on each other and having fun Also, dizzy go left dizzy go lefty is on the concrete on this song and I’m a sucker for Learning how songs are composed. I just yeah, this is one of the greats

Roderick Morrow (10:07.535)
Hahaha

Rajah (10:27.728)
you have to create a family function.

Roderick Morrow (10:30.573)
Yeah, everybody knows the words, you know, too. And as a wallflower, this is a song that I watch other people dance to. So I like that too. And same thing with Stevie Wonder, one of a kind voice that will never be duplicated, you know, type of type of thing. so it’s one these things where you hear it and you go, I know what that song is. Kind of, you know how, how to years ago when an artist would do something, you go, I know who that is now depend on.

Rajah (10:39.044)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Roderick Morrow (11:00.869)
What the song is, I have to say, is it the old version or the new version or the new new version? I don’t know.

Rajah (11:06.821)
Yeah.

Heather (11:07.147)
You

Rajah (11:10.564)
And now I’m curious, like, has anybody sampled this? I’m sure somebody has.

Roderick Morrow (11:16.994)
yeah. Probably one way or another. Yeah. Blended it somewhere in the background or something where it’s like you probably have to go deep to hear it, but it’s there somewhere if that makes sense.

Rajah (11:27.162)
Mm-hmm.

Roderick Morrow (11:30.405)
Particularly with these drums and stuff.

Rajah (11:30.968)
another safe song for Simpson’s ears.

Roderick Morrow (11:34.481)
Mm-hmm.

Karla (11:44.096)
Yeah, I also feel like when you listen to Stevie Wonder, like nothing could go wrong in your life. He’s one of those artists that like automatically boosts your mood. No matter what you’re listening to, you know, it could be anything. It could be a sad song, it be a happy song, but I feel like his voice, just like the music, always just like lifts you up.

Roderick Morrow (11:49.497)
Right?

Rajah (11:49.935)
Mm-hmm.

Rajah (12:08.326)
You guys.

Roderick Morrow (12:11.329)
Agreed and he would probably be somebody who’d be cool to have to watch live too.

Heather (12:17.066)
Absolutely.

Roderick Morrow (12:17.881)
Yeah, because years ago you had to be able to be musically inclined, if that made sense. Like you had to really sing or lot of people you played multiple instruments, you know, type of thing. So I’m pretty sure it’d be really cool to watch him sit and play a piano.

Rajah (12:18.544)
Mm-hmm.

Rajah (12:24.08)
Yeah.

Rajah (12:35.101)
Is this jammed out? Yes.

Roderick Morrow (12:37.263)
Yes, and just jam out. You can do a melody, not even a concert, just whatever you feel like singing, will just sit and just listen. know, nothing but no request. How the wind makes you blow. You know this is an old school song too, because it was like a hit song and it’s five minutes long, and now every hit song has to be like two and a half minutes. Yes, because our tension span is shorter. Yeah, but it’s like.

Rajah (12:44.125)
I’m

Heather (12:45.868)
You

Heather (12:55.457)
Yeah.

Rajah (12:58.394)
Right.

Roderick Morrow (13:00.177)
Nah, it’s not attention span, it’s just money. It’s just, they figured out like, yo, you can play it more times if it’s two and a half minutes. So, Yeah, because algorithms, yeah, cause years ago you didn’t have algorithms. Yeah, you could be a number one. And everyone is not on the radio as much, so everyone’s streaming it. So how many streams you can get is how much money they can make. But man, I miss that era of like a five minute radio bop, you know? Where you have like a one minute instrumental intro and there’s not even like words yet.

Heather (13:05.934)
That’s fair.

Rajah (13:17.853)
Mm.

Roderick Morrow (13:30.083)
melody is building.

Roderick Morrow (13:35.013)
It’s like drums, alright trumpets, alright come on move in section. You know you got like four things building in before they hit their first note.

Heather (13:39.022)
You

Rajah (13:41.216)
you

Rajah (13:47.099)
It makes me think about when you’re driving. Sometimes I want the vibe to last while I’m getting to my destination without pushing up too much.

Roderick Morrow (13:53.978)
Yes!

Heather (13:55.618)
Mm-hmm.

Roderick Morrow (13:59.227)
Like I love the new music, but it’d be over fast. Yes.

Rajah (14:03.611)
Yeah.

Heather (14:16.558)
All right, this next song is Dos Gardenas by Buena Vista Social Club.

Heather (14:25.891)
It was released on Elamore de Mutiera. sorry, no. That is the wrong note again. Karla, go ahead and tell us about this one. Sorry about that.

Karla (14:29.272)
Mm-hmm.

Karla (14:33.078)
Alright.

So this is what we call in Cuba boleros and I think Buena Vista Social Club became really popular in like pop culture after they did this documentary on them in the early 2000s and well this song, Dos Gardeñas is actually, I put it in this list because my family just started celebrating Thanksgiving recently, well like you know like maybe like two, three decades ago

Because that’s when we migrated to the to the US and then when my grandma cooks or when my family cooks this is kind of like the music that plays in the background and boleros are really like ballads their love songs and Whenever I think of the holidays or I think of my family now that I don’t live in the same country as them I think of this kind of music, you know when I think of just my grandparents like They used to say that when you dance this

song you had to be able to dance it in one little square of tile you know so it always brings those those memories to mind you know that’s

Roderick Morrow (15:46.403)
What kind of food do y’all cook for Thanksgiving? it like the American food? Is it a blend of Cuban and American?

Karla (15:54.743)
Yeah, it’s a blend.

Yeah, it’s a blend. Like my grandma gets really bored of the turkey. She thinks the turkey is bland. So we usually have like two turkeys. So we have like two turkeys. One turkey is like in fricassee, which was basically in a sauce. And then the other one is like, every year they like mix it up with a different kind of seasoning. We always have yuca, which is like, I think in English it’s cassava with mojo, which is like

Roderick Morrow (16:02.735)
Yeah, I agree. Yes.

Rajah (16:02.896)
You

Rajah (16:06.817)
Yeah.

Heather (16:07.055)
You

Karla (16:27.356)
It’s kind of like a sauce that you make with oil, garlic, onions, and lemon juice. And then it just gives it like, it’s very tangy, it’s very good. And you boil the yuca and you kind of put on that. And then we have a mix. have some things that are very like American. We have like cranberry sauce. But then like our sweet potato stuff, we mix it with like white sweet potato, because we think like yellow sweet potato is not sweet enough. And then we have like flan for dessert. So it’s a kind

of like a real mix. Yeah.

Roderick Morrow (16:58.917)
This music makes me.

Heather (16:59.185)
So hold up, there is a sweeter sweet potato? I had no idea.

Rajah (17:02.528)
Right.

Karla (17:02.637)
Yeah, it’s the white one. Yeah, it’s called Boniato. It’s like a purple on the outside and it looks kind of like all weird. I’ll share it later. Yeah, but it’s very good. Yeah.

Roderick Morrow (17:02.843)
Yeah.

Heather (17:15.346)
Okay.

Nice. So that was released on Buena Vista Social Club on World Circuit Limited in 97. This next song is Sisters by Peggy Lee. It is from Selections for Urban Berlin’s White Christmas on Geffen Records, 1954. So this is from White Christmas. It’s kind of one of those cash grabs Christmas movies. It was just like built around the music, which

Roderick Morrow (17:47.633)
That’s what I’m about to say, yes, this sound like a soundtrack, yes.

Heather (17:48.207)
has its own charms. Yeah, yeah. But two of the characters in this show are sisters that perform and do like little cabaret acts. And this is one that is in the show. But this reminds me of my family because of my dad. So the lyrics in the song are caring, sharing of a little thing we were wearing.

Rajah (17:51.655)
Yeah.

Heather (18:17.486)
So anytime my sisters and I were fighting, he would start singing this song to us. That’s just what I grew up with. And I mean, it’s a cute song. So part of it later in the song, says, God help the mister, right here, that comes between me and my sister. But God help the sister who comes between me and my man. So, you know, it’s one of those cutesy older songs.

Rajah (18:26.537)
Mm-hmm.

Heather (18:47.42)
There’s a goofy callback in the movie when the sisters are trying to escape. The two gentlemen leads in the show go on stage for them in their costumes. So actually, my sister gave me a magnet of a screenshot of that scene that I keep on my fridge. It’s silly, but it’s cute, and it really reminds me of my family.

Rajah (19:11.219)
Let’s go see.

Roderick Morrow (19:13.809)
That’s adorable. It feels like an old timey, like someone’s gonna sell me a product. Yes. After the song comes, you know, like. Just be like, hey ladies, are you tired of putting all this effort in for ironing? Here’s some spray starts, brand new just for you. Spencer’s white enamel toothpaste. Yes.

Heather (19:15.876)
You

Heather (19:21.466)
Yeah.

Rajah (19:23.347)
Thank

Heather (19:24.635)
That’s fair, that’s very fair.

Karla (19:25.95)
Yeah.

Rajah (19:35.827)
I’m gonna…

Karla (19:36.238)
I guess, 100%.

Rajah (19:41.25)
now that makes me think of Fallout.

Roderick Morrow (19:43.665)
Yes!

Heather (19:49.105)
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Roderick Morrow (20:44.922)
You

Heather (20:58.759)
All right, this first song is I Want to Thank You by Alicia Myers. It was released on Back to Back on UMG Recordings in 1998. Roderick, tell us about this song.

Roderick Morrow (21:10.073)
So once again, the theme was Thanksgiving and I didn’t want to just make everything Christmas music because that’s what I think of at my Thanksgiving gatherings. But I just thought, what about songs that make me feel thankful? And Alicia Myers, I Want to Thank You is one of those songs that crosses like different genres to me because it’s somewhat of a like spiritual, like, you know, like it’s almost a gospel song.

But it’s generally like a club song, you know? Like if somebody did cocaine to this, I wouldn’t be shocked. Like I’d be like, that makes sense too. But also if somebody caught the Holy Ghost to this, also be just as like, that makes sense. you could get that to both. And what’s funny is it really came on my radar, not through the original song, which my family played for years in front of me. I don’t know why it didn’t connect then, but it was, listened to, The Fuschnikens had an album.

and they did a sample of this song and they rapped a gospel song to it. And I was like, man, this is this is an amazing song. And then my dad played the original for me another different day. And I was like, that’s where I know that song from. And I don’t know if I’ve listened to the rap version since, but this, I want to thank you, Alicia Myers. It’s just amazing, amazing track.

Rajah (22:34.285)
Yeah, this is definitely a lot of gratitude in general. And everybody’s wondering what they’re thankful for.

Roderick Morrow (22:41.713)
Yeah, she doesn’t even say what it is that would have happened. Like she just is like, it wouldn’t have happened without you, Jesus, thank you. And I’m like, I don’t even know what she’s happy for, but I’m with her. I believe that woman. You happy, I’m happy. I want it to happen for me too, Jesus. Let’s do it.

Heather (22:54.033)
Hahaha

Heather (23:07.389)
I’m gonna have to look up that rap version that’s intriguing to me.

Rajah (23:07.393)
I love the vocals.

Mm-hmm.

Roderick Morrow (23:11.267)
Yeah, yeah, Fooshniggins. don’t, don’t, that was back in when rappers, shout out to my girl Glorilla. She trying to bring it back. But that was back when every rap album had one religious track. Yes, at least one. I feel like MC Hammer came out with Pray. Yes. And everybody was like, man, we gotta get some of this Christian money. And then rappers would be rapping about all kinds of crazy stuff for the whole album. And then ended with like, here’s my Jesus song. DMX used to.

Heather (23:23.411)
Mm.

Rajah (23:23.938)
Mm-hmm.

Roderick Morrow (23:38.681)
put a prayer on every album. I feel like we losing recipes. People just stop doing the rap prayers. It’s all just the demons now. Kurt had them stomping up in the clubs. Yeah, and Kurt didn’t even have no rap on the album. He was just hip They was like, this is still a bop. We don’t care. Right.

Rajah (23:41.336)
Mm-hmm.

Rajah (23:50.73)
Yeah.

Rajah (23:54.771)
Yeah.

Roderick Morrow (24:08.197)
That’s another thing too, is like R &B and gospel had such a blend back in the day that there’s so many songs that just sound like love songs that are just like about, they’re about religion, but they’re about love. Like they’re rapping, they’re singing about God, he’s like, he’s a guy that they’re trying to like get with, you know? Trying to date. Yeah.

Rajah (24:09.005)
I didn’t mean it. Yeah.

Heather (24:28.691)
Hahaha

Karla (24:33.221)
Get cozy with Jesus.

Roderick Morrow (24:35.387)
Laughter

Heather (24:41.716)
All right, this next song coming up is Pass the Peas by the JBs. It was released on Food for Thought on Universal Records in 1972. no, that is incorrect. This is the wrong song. I am on a roll today. I’m doing so great. Okay, this is Freedom by Beyonce with Kendrick Lamar. Whose song was this?

Roderick Morrow (25:05.339)
This was my song. And the thing is, no, you’re good, baby. The thing is, a lot of these songs was prior to the election, but even before we got the results, was like, you know what, what are songs that actually make me feel good and uplift me, kind of regardless of what the outcome would be? And this song right here, I really love

Rajah (25:05.845)
here.

Heather (25:08.568)
that’s right, I’m sorry.

You

Roderick Morrow (25:34.255)
this particular song off of this album because just when you really just listen to it, it’s like, hey, dog, like, regardless of what happened, y’all can’t stop me. Y’all can’t break me. I have to keep going. You know, like, and it actually meant something to my to my spirit. Like this right here is one of one of the few songs that I play and I actually shot. I sing out loud anyway, but I would just sing out loud at my desk, you know.

And it’s one of these things where you be like, hey, like she said, I break chains all by myself. You know what I’m saying? Like, hey, a winner don’t quit on themselves. So it’s one of the things where the lyrics actually speaks to me directly type of thing. And so it’s one of the songs that actually for me, that Thanksgiving thankful type of feeling for me, and it radiates with me really deeper.

deeply like it already resonated before but now it resonates even deeper and it speaks to me even more than it did prior to the election and so for me this song actually means a lot to me.

Roderick Morrow (26:47.973)
Yeah, also like, if you play this at the gym, you could get like, go into cardiac arrest. Cause it really- Yeah, you can. I was on the treadmill one time on the elliptical and this thing hit and I was just supposed to be doing a warmup and I was like breaking my record. was like, I gotta slow down on this Beyonce, this is getting crazy. Don’t hurt yourself. Yeah, in some songs you go, if I’m trying to like,

Heather (26:49.009)
This is very powerful song.

Rajah (26:51.049)
Mm-hmm.

Heather (27:10.973)
You

Roderick Morrow (27:17.637)
run or jog or workout, you’re like, I need something a little bit middle paced. Like I do this at the height. I can’t even listen to this without like a serious face. You know what mean? Like I don’t look like I’m having a good time at party and I be looking like, you will not take my freedom from me on this treadmill America. Like it’s crazy. You gonna get this business weights. Right. Are you breaking the sweat?

Rajah (27:28.869)
Yeah, yeah.

Heather (27:37.759)
Hahaha.

Heather (27:41.971)
You

Roderick Morrow (27:47.185)
And this is the this version that I got is the one that also has Kendrick cuz I think there’s one is that one person without Kendrick? yeah. I’m not sure I don’t remember if there is okay, but but I actually look like say Kendrick Lamar is one of my favorite rappers So it’s like I just love that they blended these together and also this is a song that she act to actually perform at the BET Awards the year it came out and so I appreciate that too

And so like I said, for me personally, really, this song really resonates with me a lot. It makes me grateful and thankful and hopeful. And one the things too for me where I refuse to give up. So, you know, it’s like, okay, I understand the purpose is to take my freedom away, but you will not. And if you’re gonna have somebody rapping about freedom, Kendrick Lamar is the choice. True. Like I can’t even picture another rapper coming in and doing as good a job as he did.

Rajah (28:47.482)
And that’s a big point. And what you were saying earlier about not being able to stay calm or remain calm listening to this, it’s weird because the beats per minute, it’s like a slow song to me, but it’s the percussion, the guitar, and that staticky sound she has in the background in the call out, it makes it sound like you’re in a moment and you’re

Roderick Morrow (29:11.202)
Yes.

Roderick Morrow (29:15.013)
Yes.

Rajah (29:15.342)
you join her immediately in that moment and it’s like something historical is happening and I need to rise up with it. Mm hmm. Yes. Yes.

Roderick Morrow (29:18.662)
Yes.

Roderick Morrow (29:23.185)
Yes. And it ends the album, you know? Like, and I’ll be ready to run it back. Like, I’ll be like, let’s go to the beginning again. Yes, let’s go. Yes, 100 % agree. I made lemonade. That’s right, ma’am.

Heather (29:31.687)
Hahaha

Heather (29:39.867)
So that was released on Lemonade on Parkwood Entertainment 2016. And this is Pass the Peace by the JB’s Food for Thought Universal Records 72. Rajah, now it’s your turn.

Rajah (29:50.71)
Yes, and the Peas. I was thinking about Martin’s the Famine Feast episode where the men and women have like a cook-off competition and there’s a scene in that episode where Gina, Pam, Martin Lawrence, and Mama Payne and Millie Jackson are demonstrating Pass and the Peas. And so Pass and the Peas is a jazz term where the lead solo

in a circle of musicians take turns doing a solo while everybody around them like supports them and hypes them up. And so instead of using an instrument, the women in this scene are using their voices. And so they take turns singing, pass the fees like we used to do, and they add their own, you know, stank and stuff on it. And the joke in it is Martin as Mama Payne. And everybody in the group stops.

supporting Gina when she started singing is that everybody was hyped for everybody else as soon as Gina sang PASSAPEED like we used to do everybody looked at her like why are you here and it made me think about also the TikTok trend just giving me my money I don’t know if anybody seen that but that’s for kids who used to yes and then the one person left out it was just that vibe and just like

Roderick Morrow (31:02.309)
Yeah

Roderick Morrow (31:11.643)
Yes. Give me my money.

Rajah (31:19.852)
when you pray plates on your family and just having the moment. Also, when thinking about like the older people telling the kid to come in and show everybody a little dance, a little kick-off dance y’all do. And it’s like everybody’s taking turns doing a solo essentially and connecting with their family. So this song that you think of that there aren’t many words, but you can hear each musician take a turn playing.

Roderick Morrow (31:33.126)
Haha

Rajah (31:48.786)
and doing their solo and putting their flavor onto the beat. And I just love that community aspect of it. And that’s what Passing the Peeves is. I was like, it has some meaning. It just all together a fun time.

Roderick Morrow (32:08.599)
And since it’s Thanksgiving, it literally makes me wanna pass the peas. You know what mean? Yes.

Heather (32:08.897)
I love that. I wasn’t familiar with the term.

Rajah (32:13.064)
Yes.

Heather (32:13.656)
Yeah.

Rajah (32:20.171)
I love a good jam session.

Karla (32:20.959)
I love this, like, you know, ongoing saxophone.

Roderick Morrow (32:27.771)
Child, yes, the breakdown, yes, I’m here with you. Come on through, trombone. And this song has been sampled in so many hip hop songs. Like, it’s crazy how many, like, the JBs have so much sample history in hip hop, but like, some of these breaks and stuff that, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

Heather (32:30.382)
Mm-hmm.

Rajah (32:37.434)
Mm-hmm.

Roderick Morrow (32:47.269)
Like I’ve heard that so many different ways. So yeah, it’s a jam. Yeah. And this also made me think about years ago, how musicians actually mattered and how a lot of times people played live music. Like a lot of this old school music. No, we actually got a trombonist in here. We actually got a drum is in here. You’re not hearing anything synthesized. We’re not, we’re not talking about AI. If it’s imperfect, that’s fine. You’re going to get the imperfect on this wax.

Rajah (32:49.909)
Mm-hmm.

Rajah (33:04.457)
Yes.

Heather (33:06.66)
Mm-hmm.

Heather (33:14.532)
Mm-hmm.

Rajah (33:15.711)
Exactly.

Heather (33:17.282)
Alright, this next song is El Amor de Mi Tierra by Carlos Vives. It was released on El Amor de Mi Tierra on TridentBV in 1999. Karla, tell us about this one.

Karla (33:28.582)
I’m really giving you a run for your money, Heather, with the double Rs. Yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, I went more for the family element of the podcast today. And so this song is by Carlos Vives and it’s called El Amor de mi Tierra, which means like the love for my country or my land.

Heather (33:32.608)
Yeah. Yeah, I’m not, I’m not good at that.

Karla (33:51.589)
And this is a cumbia, which is one of the traditional dances of Colombia, which is where he’s from. And this is an album that my mom and my grandma used to play all the time when I was a kid. And like, you know, used to dance to, especially like Saturday morning, like…

forced cleaning at our house. This was a very common tune to listen to. But they also play at lot of parties because it’s like a nice song to dance to. And, you know, Latinos, we like to dance in groups and we like to dance with partners and things like that. So this is a very good, good song about that. And it’s also, I love the lyrics of the song because he’s kind of saying that, you know,

He’s gonna gift his lover like all of the love of his fields and the flowers of his land and that you he’s gonna take her to see the night sky and in the countryside and things like that so I think it’s a very beautiful song that really like captures the beauty of

Latin American nature as well because it’s such a I mean it’s three continents that span all of our 22 different cultures so it’s a very nice song. Yeah.

Roderick Morrow (35:12.901)
This cover art makes me think I’m about to read a novel where this dude is about to fall in deep love and we’re about to hear his perspective. It’s like, was just walking one day and she just appeared and it was that love at first sight, but I was scared to let her know who I really was. Yes, like that old school Fabio, yes, he got a fan going on. I like this.

Karla (35:20.408)
Yeah

Heather (35:21.817)
You

Heather (35:26.587)
You

Karla (35:32.87)
His hair is amazing. Yeah, so actually, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, Carlos Vives was married to this very famous actress who was the protagonist of a hit telenovela called Café con Aroma de Mujer, which is like coffee with the scent of a woman.

Rajah (35:35.034)
Yes.

Heather (35:35.097)
Yeah, I mean, it’s very Fabio. Yep.

Rajah (35:38.18)
Yes.

Roderick Morrow (35:41.061)
Just translated in English and I’m here.

Roderick Morrow (35:59.601)
Mmm.

Karla (35:59.72)
And this was during that time, so he was like, you know, the guy married to the leading lady of Colombia. yeah, this cover is, yeah. This album also has a lot of great, like other great tunes that get you in that, like, okay, I wanna ride on a horse across the Colombian countryside with this guy.

Roderick Morrow (36:08.689)
See, I was close.

Roderick Morrow (36:23.333)
Come on.

Heather (36:24.569)
You

Heather (36:31.266)
Alright, this next song is The Chaos by The Future Heads. was released on The Chaos on Dovecote Records in 2010. So this is a bit of a curveball. So I personally am childless. I have a very quiet life, but I have two sisters and one of them has five children. So especially when they were younger, like holidays and family gatherings just felt like complete chaos to me.

So, this song reminds me of, you know, being around them and I say that with, you know, it’s very jokingly, like I adore being around them, they’re wonderful. They’re actually, like all of them are very good, amazing, different kids. But, you know, it just, I can’t not think about this song when I’m hanging out with them a lot of times.

Rajah (37:26.506)
That’s a funny

Karla (37:26.841)
Heather, you’re lying on this podcast, because you are not childless. You have like six dog and cat children.

Rajah (37:36.046)
You

Heather (37:36.206)
I have, I have, how many do I have? I have three of my own, plus a roommate’s dog, plus a foster cat right now. So I only have three.

Rajah (37:39.18)
Thanks.

Heather (37:49.286)
There are five in the house, but only three are mine. Yes.

Rajah (37:49.56)
Okay.

Karla (37:49.811)
but that’s like a total of five in the house and the mannequin, six.

Rajah (37:57.49)
without a button menu key.

Heather (37:58.728)
He’s very quiet though, very easy to take care of.

Roderick Morrow (38:03.377)
most behaved in the house. This music makes me feel like I’m playing Tony Hawk Pro Skater. Yes. Like the video game. It’s got a vibe to it. What year did this come out again?

Heather (38:05.669)
Yes, yes.

Heather (38:10.565)
Yeah.

Rajah (38:11.673)
Mm-hmm.

Heather (38:16.123)
Yeah. this was 2010. It’s in the post-punk genre though, so it’s very close to like pop punk and it’s…

Roderick Morrow (38:20.687)
Okay, good.

Rajah (38:25.165)
Mm-hmm.

Roderick Morrow (38:26.076)
You know it did sound like something they would play on Malcolm in the middle

Heather (38:30.651)
Yeah, what a good show.

Rajah (38:30.815)
yes. Yes, that’s okay.

Roderick Morrow (38:36.347)
They also had three chaotic kids. Yes, they did. That kind of jives.

Heather (38:39.869)
Yes, yes, very much. Now this is a UK post-punk band that, you know, is just very, very much in that genre. I really like the post-punk genre because I kind of, grew up on punk of all varieties, I think. And it’s just very, it’s very active and very playful and I just…

There’s so much to enjoy in them.

Rajah (39:17.815)
I can see the gang or a gaggle of children having fun. Yeah. Yeah. And yelling, kids are just loud. They’re little people with big feelings. I get it.

Heather (39:24.966)
Yeah.

Karla (39:28.748)
Yeah.

Heather (39:30.714)
Yeah. Yup.

Karla (39:33.718)
Yeah.

Rajah (39:36.395)
got across the way.

Karla (39:37.485)
This makes me feel like a teenager.

Heather (39:40.437)
Ha

Karla (39:46.913)
So that five, four, three, two, one, because you have five nieces and nephews.

Roderick Morrow (39:51.633)
Hahaha!

Heather (39:51.646)
I didn’t think about that, but that does work, yeah. Yeah, and really they’re all little extroverts, almost. I think one is not, but at least three or four of them are. So it’s just a lot of running around and playing games. And hey, look at this. Also, the oldest girl who’s now driving, which blows my mind, she picked out my aunt name, and it is Tatu.

Roderick Morrow (40:11.034)
Hmm?

Heather (40:20.86)
because I have lots of tattoos and as like a toddler she just started calling me that so.

Roderick Morrow (40:23.057)
Rajah (40:27.905)
That’s sweet.

Heather (40:28.37)
very sweet. I’m very proud of that Auntie name.

Roderick Morrow (40:32.463)
Yeah, that’s going to be a cool story when she gets older. Right? Like, yeah, that’s my aunt tattoo. Yeah.

Karla (40:32.843)
Yeah, tattoo. Yeah, you’re like the cool aunt. Yeah.

Heather (40:36.103)
Yeah.

Rajah (40:36.923)
Mm-hmm.

Heather (40:39.089)
Yep, yep.

Heather (40:44.509)
All right, that is round two. We have a little production note. Disc Course is produced in partnership with Hey Awesome Girl, a full service marketing and creative studio on a mission to help female entrepreneurs build and grow companies that empower their lives, become a part of their awesome community by visiting heyawesomegirl.com slash grow. All right, let’s get into round three.

Heather (41:11.251)
This first song is Before I Let Go by Frankie Beverly and Maze. It was released on Live in New Orleans on Capitol Records in 1981. Roderick, tell us about this one.

Roderick Morrow (41:22.197)
First of all, rest in peace to Frankie Beverly. I feel like probably the most black famous man that ever have existed. And yeah, man, I mean, this is just, this makes me think of family. This is makes me think of get togethers and Thanksgiving if nothing else is just a family get together. And this song brings together generations of all stripes.

Rajah (41:25.781)
Okay.

Roderick Morrow (41:50.125)
Everyone knows the words, everybody parties to it. Like Frankie Beverly amazed before I let go of Soba Love that Beyonce did like a remix tribute. And I’ve never, that’s like the only time I’ve seen black people visibly upset with Beyonce. Like leave it alone. I was like, whoa, whoa, calm down. She trying to help. She like it too y’all. It’s like, well, I’m not going to be playing it over Frankie. It’s like, we know we, is all, everything’s okay. She never actually do that. Yeah. But,

But that’s how much of a classic it is. And I feel like it’s a tradition that’s handed down. I was three in 1981. There’s no reason I should know all the words of this and everything. But I feel like I know it. I feel like my niece knows it. I feel like my nephews are going to know it and their kids are going to know it because it’s just that much of a classic.

Yeah, it makes me think of food and family and getting together. So that’s why I had to put it on my list. Yeah, and this is one of the few songs that everybody could collectively electric slide on. And the thing about electric slide, if you’re gonna have it at a cookout or something like that, it needs to be something that’s slow enough that everybody can step to. No new fangled stuff. Nobody wants that stuff where it’s 25 steps.

Rajah (42:57.916)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Heather (43:05.344)
you

Roderick Morrow (43:09.145)
Move to the left, move to the right, do a little spin and let’s rotate that in a circle until everybody gets tired. Make it simple.

Heather (43:17.054)
Ha ha ha.

Rajah (43:23.42)
I’m trying not to sing because I know it.

Roderick Morrow (43:24.006)
He ended

Roderick Morrow (43:29.393)
And the kids, yeah, you would normally see kids running around. Normally it’s like whenever we have cookouts, fish fries, barbecues.

Rajah (43:40.092)
Mm-hmm.

Rajah (43:43.846)
You can smell the song. Like, you gotta be grilling. Mm-hmm.

Roderick Morrow (43:46.309)
You literally can smell the song. I can smell the burgers getting burnt on the grill by your uncle who tell you that all meat is supposed to be burnt. You be like, sir, everything can’t be burned. He be like, yeah, yeah, I want that meaty and red. Well, if I’m cooking, you gonna get it done. You be like, well, I guess I’m gonna be knowing on it then, cause you just determined that everything got to be cooked to a crisp. It’s also crazy cause it’s a breakup song.

Rajah (43:53.38)
You

Rajah (44:11.927)
Yes.

Roderick Morrow (44:15.375)
You know, but it’s like, I associate this with just like black family get together, cookouts, like Thanksgiving’s holidays. But I mean, technically it’s a song about him being like, come on, baby, don’t leave, you know?

Rajah (44:33.104)
That went over my head.

Roderick Morrow (44:33.785)
Hey!

Me too, me too. I mean the title is Before I Let Go. What is he letting go of this relationship? He’s like, baby please, don’t. Before I Let Go, let me just try to beg you one last time. And we just sitting there like, Before I Right here now, y’all. Yes! Two stumps, yes. Like that’s all I cared about. I’m sorry you broke up with her, sir, but I’m going to electric slide all over your relationship. Thank you for your pain. Yes, thank you for your hurt. You made a bop.

Rajah (44:43.28)
Rajah (44:51.953)
Yes.

Heather (45:01.718)
Hahaha.

Rajah (45:02.936)
Yes, yes. I forgot, I almost had it.

Rajah (45:10.32)
Thank you for being here every time.

Roderick Morrow (45:10.479)
You shouldn’t have made it too jammy.

Roderick Morrow (45:18.513)
And I guess in that way, you know, the song does make you thankful for the people that you’re with. And, you know, if you’re with your lady, you’re like, I don’t want to be like Frankie. I don’t want to be begging like Frankie. Let me show you some appreciation before I have to let you go. I don’t want to deal with what he going through. That man sounds hurt. I real hurt, don’t he?

Rajah (45:28.307)
Hahaha!

Rajah (45:37.293)
Merci.

Roderick Morrow (45:39.107)
No.

Roderick Morrow (45:45.723)
And it’s got like that go-go underpinnings under the beat, you know, which is like a great genre, like DC music. Like it’s just, yeah, it’s just a vibe.

Rajah (45:50.254)
Mm-hmm.

Roderick Morrow (46:04.507)
And that’s another one that’s been sampled by so many hip hop people. Yes, a lot of hip hop people.

Rajah (46:08.354)
Mm-hmm.

Heather (46:13.633)
Alright, this next song is Alright by Kendrick Lamar. It was released on T’Pimp a Butterfly on Aftermath and Interscope in 2015. Karen, tell us about this one.

Roderick Morrow (46:23.663)
Yeah, for me, as y’all could tell, I was in the mood because we like did this right before the election and I was like, what am I really grateful for and what am I really thankful for? So that’s kind of why I picked some of the songs that I did. And I think for me, this song helped me get through the pandemic. Like, like this, this song helped me get through Trump’s first election. Like, so for me, I, you know, I was like, regardless of what the outcome was, I’ve

Heather (46:48.354)
Hmm.

Roderick Morrow (46:52.943)
was like I wanted songs that were uplifting, which in return makes me very grateful and thankful. So that’s kind of my connection to these songs to kind of the theme of it. And I think for this particular song, this song became a theme. And in my opinion, this song will be a theme again, because regardless of what’s happening, I know that I have to be all right. I don’t have a choice but to be all right and keep fighting and keep marching and not giving up.

Rajah (46:59.296)
Mm-hmm.

Roderick Morrow (47:22.681)
Like, so that’s, you know, for me, you have to kind of self-motivate because sometimes the world will tell you that you should just give up on things and what’s the point. But my thing is, too many people in my past have sacrificed for me to get here, for me just to give up on them. And so I’m grateful for what I have and I refuse to let anybody take what I have. And so for me, the…

this song hits a chord within my soul to make me kinda refocus and reframe where I wanna be and where I wanna go. And my thing is, I know that I don’t wanna go alone. So I’m reaching out to other people and go, hey y’all, we gonna be all right. So it’s like you have to tell yourself that and then you have to tell yourself that enough times till you believe it and then when you believe it, you can tell other people.

type of thing. And so this song is one of them songs where I could play on repeat and by the time I hear it a few times my spirit is lifted, you know, type of thing. And so for me, that’s one reason why this particular song I love. This is one of my favorite songs by him. And I really just put it on repeat. And like the Beyonce song, this is one of those songs where you don’t want to work out too. You will literally hurt yourself if you try to keep up with the pace. Like, like, like, like the beat to it.

You be like, okay, can’t, I don’t think I’m able to keep through this. This is like a four minute song. I hope I can make it through this. But it will motivate you. You’re like, yeah, we gonna be all right. You know, until your thighs by burning tomorrow because of them squats. Then you’re like, we ain’t all right right now. We are not all right. My body is saying otherwise. Yeah, I think it’s also like evocative of like the…

Rajah (48:55.264)
Yeah.

Roderick Morrow (49:11.727)
long tradition of like almost like a Negro spiritual to some extent. The fact that he was able to make this in the modern day context has always been why I think Kendrick Lamar is light years ahead of so many other people because it’s such a serious and somber thing, but it’s also like a uplifting thing. And I remember being at Trap Karaoke and this song came on.

And I mean, they could have turned the damn music off. Like everybody just was saying it, all the words and stuff. So yeah, this is definitely one of those ones.

Rajah (49:51.021)
Yeah. It makes me feel or think about a feeling after a good cry. Lots of clarity.

Heather (50:02.596)
Hmm.

Roderick Morrow (50:02.801)
Yeah, yeah, I 100 % agree.

Heather (50:07.556)
This next song is Sweet Honey Buckin’ by Beyonce and Shibuzy. It was released on Cowboy Carter. I’m Parkwood Entertainment, 2024. Rajah, tell us about this one.

Rajah (50:18.008)
I had to this song while I was trying to figure out what makes me think about family. And I really loved the song the first time I heard it when it dropped. And playing it, I don’t know what number, this part was the 15th time I heard the song more. It is the ultimate family function song. And in three parts, it walks you through the whole

day of preparing for family function. Right here Shibuzy is going to pick up the alcohol for the family and we’re in the first week part. so, Leontae now is going to walk you into thinking about, hey, what do you mean from the store? I’m thinking about my family, excited who I’m going to see, my cousins, my people I haven’t seen in a while. Usually the family functions bring people from far and wide. And so,

riding through just to put my eyes on you and just excited to see and feel that once again and connecting with your family and Just thinking about home and coming home on the highway And she repeats I’m coming home. I’m coming home and that’s like all you thinking about thinking about people fly or Have to drive or just go any kind of business to your family. That’s like we’re seeing a heart and what you’re thinking about

and then just the whole song really moves you through the day and so next we’ll have Honey and it kind of slows down a little bit and so that’s like when we’re to approach the middle of the day when people have started to show up and you need to check on the people you came with or your partner like your baby, your boo and you send them that text like hey baby you good?

Because I know you’re a sigh or you know, just being around my family can be a lot. You all right? Or you could be of age and taking a walk with your cousins outside for that walk. If you know what I mean. You come back refreshed. Yes, yes. And it’s like just slowing down and it’s about to get back up with lucky.

Roderick Morrow (52:32.599)
Mm-hmm. I know the one.

Heather (52:35.313)
Hahaha

Rajah (52:43.278)
You got your second, third plate. You starting to make to-go plates. You’ve had something to drink, a bell eggnog. And at this point, we are now having those conversations about politics, where the family has come from or been through, and reflecting on where we’re gonna head as a family. there’s a part where she speaks about they’re yanking the chain. She speaks about money.

and getting ourselves together. And so I think about resilience and having those conversations and listening to the adults and the elders in my family talk about what we should do moving forward and how I respond and kind of coming up with a game plan on how we’re going to move to the unit. And so that’s why I think this is like the ultimate family function. So I’m just walking through that day. So it’s like we’re bucket, we’re still fighting, we still keep moving forward like a mechanical bull.

That’s what I think about when I this song. It’s it’s great to dance to. Mm-hmm.

Heather (53:52.037)
I love the vibe of this section.

Roderick Morrow (53:56.433)
That’s like two songs in one.

Rajah (54:25.72)
I definitely think it was like making me think about like redlining and trying to get money for generational wealth and just so many different things on the visuals about

southern black culture, particularly with bulls, ranching, and farming. That’s that’s major in the South as far as the economy and agriculture.

Heather (54:55.804)
All right, this next song is Dos Oruguitas. Oruguitas? Thank you, Karla. By Sebastian Yatra. It’s from Encanto soundtrack on Disney Enterprises 2021. Karla, tell us about it.

Karla (55:00.795)
Oruguitas. Oruguitas. Yes, oruguitas.

Karla (55:11.805)
Yeah, so I don’t know if anybody has seen Encanto, because I think it’s not as popular as like Coco or something like that, but it’s a Pixar, Disney Pixar movie. And this song is kind of like the song towards the end where like the grandmother and Mirabelle who has no gift kind of like, you know, she’s telling the story, her story. And I love the song because it starts out as like

Rajah (55:16.666)
Yes.

Roderick Morrow (55:21.989)
Mm-hmm.

Karla (55:40.765)
the grandmother telling the story of her and the grandfather who died defending his family and throughout the movie, the Tima family is huge, right? And then in this family, everybody has a special gift that was bestowed to them after this great tragedy in their family when they were trying to escape violence. And I really love this song because, well, Anorhuga is a caterpillar.

and you know like it’s the song is saying you know like you know ayuruitas like no se aguanten mas because like you know don’t hold back like you have to keep going because you know the like butterflies are coming right so like even if you can’t if you’re like a little caterpillar right now you’re gonna turn into a butterfly

And then yeah, think it’s such a beautiful song and a song about family and forgiveness and like journey, you know, cause sometimes we don’t understand why our ancestors or the elders in our family act in a certain way and sort of like incorporating everyone in the family. Yeah.

Roderick Morrow (56:53.201)
right?

Roderick Morrow (56:57.745)
Right, this soundtrack is very beautiful. I remember when this came out, we watched it and I don’t think I, cause I think they got two versions of it, so I don’t think I’ve heard this version. have an English in it and then another language. And so for me, yeah, I think my favorite song on the soundtrack is we don’t talk about Bruno. Yeah, like that gotta be one of my personal favorites. Like out of all of the songs.

Karla (57:13.644)
Yeah.

Heather (57:20.635)
Ugh.

Karla (57:20.692)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Roderick Morrow (57:24.681)
Like I can’t explain just something about that song and just when you watch the yeah, the graphics and the way that they move. so, yes, this whole album goes.

Karla (57:28.802)
I meant limon well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rajah (57:30.962)
Mm-hmm.

Heather (57:31.432)
Mm.

Karla (57:38.676)
Yeah, I mean this album also has the guy that had his hair in the wind. Carlos Vives also worked on this. Yeah.

Roderick Morrow (57:40.177)
Yeah, I don’t, do you think?

Roderick Morrow (57:45.713)
Yes. Do you think it’s because of the pandemic that it didn’t get that much love? Cause I, I love this joint, but I also felt that feeling too. I mean, if I’m being honest, I felt like Coco didn’t get enough love too. it agreed. I don’t know. That could just be racism. Now that I’m saying it out loud could just be racism. don’t know.

Heather (57:45.885)
Ha

Rajah (57:48.037)
cool.

Heather (57:48.84)
Nice.

Karla (57:55.626)
Yeah. Yeah.

Rajah (58:00.158)
Yeah.

Karla (58:00.756)
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I think I’m very glad as Latin American woman that these movies are coming out and that we have more than, you know, like we have more movies worth exposing the different sides of Latin American culture. Yeah. So.

Heather (58:05.449)
could be.

Roderick Morrow (58:13.093)
Yes.

Rajah (58:14.43)
Mm-hmm.

Roderick Morrow (58:21.306)
Right.

Heather (58:27.563)
This last song is End of the Line by Traveling Wilburys. It was released as a single on Wilbury Records in 1988. So this song is just, it feels like family to me. I think because of the songs I heard growing up, I think that’s a big part. So it’s an 80s supergroup. It was Bob Dylan, George Harrison, Jeff Lin of ELO, Roy Orbison, Tom Petty. So it was a lot of…

It’s singers from a lot of groups that I grew up listening to that, you know, my dad really likes. And I think the overall message of it is just very nice. It’s like, you know, it doesn’t matter what happens, you know, as long as we’re together. And I think it’s more of a romantic song, but it feels more like familial love to me.

And this actually, when I got married, this was the father-daughter dance. This is the song I chose for it. So it’s very much a daddy’s girl song for me.

Roderick Morrow (59:30.329)
It’s adorable and you know what for years I thought the name of this song was alright that shows you how much I know cuz that like I remember I remember alright like you know that piece of cuz I was thinking I’ve heard this song before you know type of thing so that’s what I thought the song was for years and that picture that cover that’s definitely 80s big hair shades lots of mousse and hairspray for no reason

Rajah (59:30.363)
Yeah.

Heather (59:38.027)
really?

Heather (59:44.328)
Yeah.

Heather (59:50.524)
Yep. Yep.

Rajah (59:52.059)
Mm-hmm.

Heather (59:57.894)
Yep, absolutely. Also, I really like the music video they did for this too. So they recorded it before Roy Orbison died, but when they shot the video, was shortly after he passed away.

So for his section of the song, they have a rocking chair with a guitar in it that’s moving and that’s kind of the focus while they’re doing it. The whole thing is they’re all in this train car that’s kind of going down the tracks, know, kind of going down the line. I think it felt very poetic to me that they did it that way.

Rajah (01:00:28.635)
Mm-hmm.

Heather (01:00:36.847)
It’s a very feel-good song to me.

Roderick Morrow (01:00:41.489)
does, feels like National Lampoon’s vacation closing song on the credits. It does, doesn’t it? I was like, yeah, this is some movie soundtrack.

Heather (01:00:46.219)
Ha

Roderick Morrow (01:00:55.483)
I had no idea this super group ever existed. This is news to me. Yes, this like I’ve heard the song before, but I didn’t know the background. I told you, I grew up listening to just hip hop and super black shit. like, you just put me on to something. I’m gonna check this out after the show. Yeah, you started naming. I was like, them people is famous. I didn’t know they got together.

Heather (01:00:58.667)
Really? my god, they have like two albums, that’s it.

Heather (01:01:06.687)
Yeah.

Heather (01:01:11.933)
Nice! that’s so exciting for me to hear.

Heather (01:01:19.754)
Yep.

Roderick Morrow (01:01:22.309)
What? did it come up with the name?

Heather (01:01:22.763)
I mean, it’s a lot of incredibly talented people. I have no idea. They have some fun songs. Like there’s one called the Wilbury Twist, which is just really goofy. It’s like they make up a dance. It’s fun. Everyone in that group is just incredibly talented and I think it was just a fun project for them.

Roderick Morrow (01:01:36.613)
Yeah

Roderick Morrow (01:01:41.583)
Yeah.

Roderick Morrow (01:01:45.683)
The fact they didn’t name it after

Karla (01:01:45.961)
Heather, do you have like video of your wedding?

Heather (01:01:49.835)
Somewhere probably? I mean, I’m divorced so I don’t really cherish it anymore. yeah. Well, I mean, while we’re talking about my wedding, it was on Halloween and it was like the best Halloween party I ever threw. And my dad was dressed as a Jedi. It was crazy and weird, yeah. It was a lot of fun. Yeah.

Karla (01:01:53.327)
I wanna see the… But I mean the father daughter dance.

Roderick Morrow (01:01:55.761)
It doesn’t mean the same thing.

Karla (01:02:11.684)
Aww. That sounds like a great wedding. Yeah.

Roderick Morrow (01:02:11.707)
That sounds cool.

Rajah (01:02:11.928)
Rajah (01:02:15.395)
That sounds fun. Yeah.

Roderick Morrow (01:02:16.175)
Right?

Karla (01:02:18.673)
Sounds like a great wedding.

Rajah (01:02:20.285)
Mm-hmm.

Heather (01:02:20.755)
Yeah, it was pretty good. Too bad the marriage was not as good.

Rajah (01:02:26.579)
Yeah.

Karla (01:02:27.419)
Maybe it was a haunted marriage.

Heather (01:02:29.835)
Haunted.

Rajah (01:02:31.916)
Hahaha

Roderick Morrow (01:02:33.103)
You can brain to break up on your husband being the Sith. Next time, you gotta do it on Thanksgiving. That’s the key. See, it’s the holiday.

Heather (01:02:33.491)
Well, anyway…

Heather (01:02:44.099)
maybe that’s it. I picked the wrong holiday, you know.

Rajah (01:02:45.812)
Mmm.

Karla (01:02:45.947)
Yeah. Yeah.

Rajah (01:02:49.265)
Great.

Heather (01:02:49.323)
All right, well that is our show. Rajah, think I’m gonna pick you for the winner this week. You had a lot of commentary and you did a lot of research, especially with that Beyonce song. So, you win. Rod and Karen, thank you so much for joining us. Where can people find you online?

Rajah (01:02:57.066)
Yeah.

Rajah (01:03:02.346)
Thank you.

Roderick Morrow (01:03:10.209)
Just the black guy who tips comm is our website. The black guy who tips is our podcast and You know Your appropriate social media channels just search the black guy with tips if you can’t find us there put TBG WT in That would just short for the black guy with tips and yeah, thank you for having us. It’s very fun Cool concept with your podcast and we wish y’all great luck

Heather (01:03:35.82)
Well, thank you. Thank you very much. We’ll be back with another episode every week, so be sure to hit subscribe. You can follow us everywhere at @disccoursepodcast. That’s Disc Course with Two C’s. And of course, find the playlist and all the songs on Spotify and Tidal. You’ve been a wonderful audience. Good night.

Rajah (01:03:37.28)
Thank you.

Karla (01:03:38.43)
Thank you!